Together we will build the bridge to the AGP generation.

waste of time? :D except for those looking for hd stuff :)

This is getting ridiculous. AGP has been around for a decade. It was a good decade. We need to let that die now. I hear some next gen cards will be AGP, but that better be it. Seriously.

someone do an 8800gtx on agp bridge im curious how the dfi wit an x2 will fair :)

not everyone has PCI-E, even today.

LOL @ pic nice one.

What is wrong with AGP?

Like.....40% of people still own an AGP based computer :p. nvidia would be stupid not to do this, esp. with all the news of the 2400/2600 AGP.

Remember, 8 lanes is still a lot of bandwith for most cards. There are barely any cards that have a huge advantage with 16 lanes > 8 lanes, so why not do it? And save the people with an older motherboard a bit of money.

Me for one, I dont want to have to upgrade all of my computers just to get PCIe. My older PC will be getting one of these if they are priced well :D

well for folks that still use the agp this is good news

@wraithdagger:
there are still a lot of people who uses AGP especially in third world countries or people who does not have the budget to buy a new computer or maybe people who thinks that AGP is still okay or those who are commited to only one card(maybe they don't like SLI or just don't have the money). there are reasons that they decided to relive the AGP, If vcard manufacturers do not produce cards with agp they would not capture the whole graphics market because as i said earlier there's still a whole lot more of AGP users.

Like I said before, I think either one of the big two (or both) should make one final AGP card that literally maxes out the bus. Then everyone who wants them can snatch them up and after that dies down, that can be the end. :: shrug ::

LMAO!!!! AGP for the Nvidia 8400 & 8600? Again those uber geeks proclaiming AGP was dead and buried after 2004 should just stop already.

AGP did die in 2004 for Hardcore gamers, its only those who cant afford to upgrade, that are resulting manufactorers to keep producing cards, its unbelievable how 40% of people still use AGP, upgrade and get yourselves a 2900XT or a 8800Ultra, thats true PCI-Express Power for you, when high end products are released for AGP, then you can claim that the AGP has returned, but up until now, for hardcore gamers, AGP is well dead, and in the past ...

Hell I would buy one. I have 4 computers> two of them run AGP. One is my LAN machine with an X800GTO and I am looking for a little more GPU power for it.

I think this a good thing they never really maxed out the full potential of AGP cards to begin with. If I buy a new computer just for the PCIE I feel like I got jacked. With my breif exp with the 2600 AGP I was almost able to run everything at max graphics settings, to bad the CAT drivers sucked at the time and hopefully this months release will correct that issue so I can purchase anther 2600XT AGP.

It will work on a Barton socket A system ? If YES, I would buy one!

agp died when sli came back to life. well in name :D and in using 2 or more cards but anyway, u get the idea :p
nvidia 7900/ati x1950pro and up will be starting to get limited by 8x pci-e. an 8800 will be frustrated on anything less than 16x lol.
i had the ecs sli mobo, the 650i. nice and ocs nice too but the 8x kills the deal if u get a more powerful card.
it would be funny/cool tough for somebody to come out with high end agp cards..the curent fastest i think is the 7950gt 512meg.

@ Mustafa
ahh yes true pci-e power now how many years did it take?

Mustafa if you are saying AGP isn't for hardcore gamers I think you are wrong. I Have AGP and have been a gamer for about 20years and with the todays prices on everything everyone cant afford to upgrade to PCI-E. AGP is still alive so why turn something down they still can make a profit of. So don't go say only the real gamers uses PCI-E because thats not the case

@ Dingo Dangi;

You cant do that :P.

If they would have made one of those cards that max out the bus last year, it would have been DX9. Hence, no DX10 support. Therefore, more complaints from AGP users :D.

I'm not saying I want the BEST for my older AGP system, but just allowing it to play latest games on med/high settings is fine for me. If they didnt come out with all these compulsory requirements (SM3.0, DX10, blah blah), Id stick to my X800.

nooooo, i duwan AGP to be continued, so what for i buy my PCIe motherboard??

I don't live in a third world country , but I use AGP , because I can't afford a new PC . If the 8600's in AGP will be priced decently , I'll buy one perhaps . It's simply stupid to not make AGP cards at this point . A lot of people don't want to buy a brand new PC , or just can't afford one. Sure a PC with an E6600 , 2 GB of RAM and a HD 2900 XT isn't too expensive ( 8800 GTX costs a fair amount more than the HD 2900 XT ) , but it's still a large amount of cash .

Gamers are probably less than 10% of the video card's market. Remember, most systems sold in the world come from big OEM companies and not systems that are put together with separate parts. And almost all of those use on-board video.
I work at computer retail and you would be surprised that just as many people or even more customers buy AGP-based cards to upgrade their systems. Not releasing new cards such as ones that are DX-10 capable would just be stupid since you are missing out on half the market.

How on earth did you draw the clouds & vegetation in Paint? Was it DX10? Is it Vista-Paint ?

I hope you are joking. That is a photograph of a bridge I found using Google Image search and then I made the signs in paint.

Im joking, of course :) Come on, that was funny ! Wasn't it? Anyway, i bet my AGP system wouldn't be able to render that sort of detail. :))

@ Mustafa. Microsoft is supporting AGP too. Full Vista ready DX10 AGP cards. LOL!!! Go back to playing Everquest already.

i agree with most of you people.i cant afford a brand new pc(except from tha fact that i dont want too..)but i want to have dx10 support in my system as i am also a gamer..i would buy an agp version of a 8600gt for sure....

@Chris
AGP is NOT for hardcore gamers. Just because you've been gaming for 20 years doesn't mean your hardcore. Did you run out an buy a 486 when Doom came out? Did you upgrade to a Pentium and a Voodoo2 to run Unreal? Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you won't buy it, that's what makes a hardcore gamer hardcore.

AGP is indeed aged, but not dead. Current top-end GPU's would be so limited by an AGP bus that there would be a noticable difference to the average consumer, creating a bad image for the marketing people to overcome. I agree that the X1950XTX (or 7900GT if you prefer green) is the top for an AGP board. But you have to admit that being limited to DX9 will be a problem moving forward, so it's nice to see a DX10 AGP card. The bigger issue is that this clearly showcases the division among the cards. The top end are no where near weak enough to put on an AGP bus, but the mid-range are too inferior to compete with the cards of yester-year. My guess would be that the next generation will see the last AGP gamer cards (think 2600 XT with 45nm and a 256-bit bus). After that you may have new cards coming, but only around current performance levels.

Just my thoughts on the subject.