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Nvidia's G92 and G94 parts are reportedly failing.

It looks as though the G84 and G86 parts are not the only parts that have been blessed by the Epic Fail Fairy. There are reports from board partners that G92 and G94 parts are failing more than they should. As you all know there are lot of G92 based cards, and 5 of those 8 are on our popular card list. That is not... good.

This is bad for Nvidia, bad for Nvidia board partners, bad for customers and good for AMD/ATI. We should all hope that the delicate GPU market competition does not get thrown out of balance.

"It seems that four board partners are seeing G92 and G94 chips going bad in the field at high rates. If you know what failures look like statistically, they follow a Poisson distribution, aka a bell curve. The failures start out small, and ramp up quickly - very quickly. If you know what you are looking for, you can catch the signs early on. From the sound of the backchannel grumblings, the failures have been flagged already, and NV isn't playing nice with their partners.

Why wouldn't they? Well, the G92 chip is used in the 8800GT, 8800GTS, 8800GS, several mobile flavours of 8800, most of the 9800 suffixes, and a few 9600 variants just to confuse buyers. The G94 is basically only the 9600GT. Basically we are told all G92 and G94 variants are susceptible to the same problem - basically they are all defective."

G92 Fail Chip


25 Comments
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:41:32 PM
aVaLaNcHe
Member
Holy crap. If that's true it's time for an Intel mobo and a couple of 4870X2s
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:58:41 PM
Duesco
Member
So, do I get my money back so I can buy an HD 4850?

How can a company screw up so many times, so fast, in such short order?

I've begun noticing artifacting in Zero Hour. The card doesn't even touch 45 C in that game, so it's not heat. I suppose I'd better contact EVGA.
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:36:22 PM
Those lifetime warranties are looking pretty good now. Thank you BFG!
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:41:21 PM
Wonder if nVidia has thought about quitting the graphics game and heading for the pie-market instead.

After all, they seem to be good at baked goods.
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:58:37 PM
Steve
The Progenitor
@Snillet

Ooooooh BURN!

Burnt pie! :)

EDIT: Wow. That was your first comment on this site, and it was damn good. Keep that up and you'll have the auto approval power in no time!

http://www.gpureview.com/leaving-good-comments-has-its-perks-article-715.html
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:27:44 PM
glad i got me an 8800gtx :)
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:07:37 PM
Ahhh, well can I have some numbers? They have sold thousands and thousands of these gpu's....what percentage are failing? You all sound like chicken little saying "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" Is it really falling.......?
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:04:05 PM
I don't believe G92's are failing, but G94's maybe.

In another forum I go to, lots of people are complaining about their 9600GT's suddenly dying
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:31:19 PM
damnit, there goes my two 9600gt's lol, they said the g84 were all bad i had one in my laptop for over a year overclocked and nothings happened yet
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:47:32 AM
Not to worry, the guy who wrote this article is a well-known nVidia basher who will "embellish" on facts AND fiction, if only to give nVidia a bad name. I really haven't seen too many posts about dieing g92 or g94 cards lately, so take this with a grain of salt.
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:53:59 AM
Duesco
Member
It's falling for me, thank you, because I'm getting graphical problems in games that are not stressing the GPU in the least.
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:40:33 AM
my bro's laptop has an 8600m gt and it definetly shows signs of being defective. Oddly enough it is sorta game specific b/c it might crash in ut3 but never crysis. Anyways hes just gonna get a notebook cooler and hope for the best. goddam nvidia.
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:23:05 PM
I'm glad I got a HD 3870, nvidia deserve this bad luck. They spend way to much money on advertising. have you seen there page, it says ''Have a BURNING question about NVIDIA technology? Ask Mad Mod Mike!'' Ironic

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_nvidia.html
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:28:40 PM
Radiator
Senior Member
You should take that with a grain of salt , afterall it's Charlie Demerjian from the INQ .
But I heard something similar awhile ago , about the temperature cycles on the G8* cards ( exept G80 ) making them fail .
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:51:57 PM
that website sure bashes nvidia in so many ways, so basicly my motherboard chip is crap, my graphic cards are crap, and my laptops in trouble, idk if this is all true though, you guys really think nvidia would sell something that doesnt work?
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:08:45 PM
I hope this is not the case of users frying their cards when attempting to overclock and then blaming Nvidia for bad GPUs.
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:02:21 PM
ultima
Senior Member
@andrew - actually lots of companies sell/produce items that they know have an issue. they just hope it won't be that bad

DC-10's (airplane) are a good example. they knew about the problem and left it for awhile, after a few airplanes crashed killing hundreds of people, they decided maybe they should fix it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-10#Cargo_door_problem

Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:17:24 PM
yea I do agree with you somewhat but there are so many products based on these cores, Idk we will just have to see what happens, but I could be why they are moving everything to 55nm lol, just a thought
Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:22:49 AM
wyz135
Senior Member
Phew.... Thank god I didn't buy the 9600GT that time I bought the Radeon HD3850
Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:15:11 PM
People see a 10% failure rate and freak out. Honestly, 10% isn't that bad (sure it sucks when it happens to you, but in the big picture it's not alot). And without having actual numbers to go on, I'd be a bit skeptical about this myself. And I'm no nVidia fan (not since their takeover of 3Dfx, which had SLI technology in 1998! But that's a story for another thread).
Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:03:42 PM
@SpacemanSpiff

These type of failures start out small and ramp up quickly

There's a bell curve
Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:39:45 PM
ultima
Senior Member
@spacemanspiff

10% is actually fairly high in computer parts
if you sold 1,000,000 cards, thats 100,000 failures.

besides we don't know the full extent of the problem, or figures involved as you said. however for the laptops seems like its a widespread issue, which would be far more than just 10%
Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:30:21 PM
swedxza
Member
aaaa what do u meam by fail? :O saw many tests on the internet and NV cards ran flawlessly any app even AA AF in crysis /confused
Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:08:32 PM
If anything i think Nivida just cranked out parts due to popularity, and most of them pass, but the whole mass manufacturing thing really leaves out the fine quality control. Basically I have my Vid card (9800 GX2) OCed over 200mhz above stock, and I've never had problems with it. It is however water cooled. If my card is in danger of failing then it should of failed already. Nivida's popular at the moment, and the amount of cards they crank out, its fairly hard to kepp tabs on them all.
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:56:58 AM
Radiator
Senior Member
@swedxza - fail as in die / burn through , as in don't work anymore .
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