Leaked AMD slides featuring HD 6870 and HD 6850 specifications.

Well the GTX 460 owners aren't who I feel bad for it's the faithful who finally took the bait for GTX 470 3-4 months ago paid $370-350 and now there not worth $250. It%u2019s like the GTX 260 fiasco all over again but this time they won't be sending you checks.(no lube)

WTF , are the 6000 series slower than 5000 or it's just me ??

yes well. they just changed it from 100% to 1.
so in battle field its 40% more fps than a 460. which basically puts it in line with a 470 or 5870...on a smaller die with less transistors....ok what did they change, lol

Aren't these really the 6770 specs? It seems like the 5870's 1600 stream processors will still outperform this new card so calling it the 6870 doesn't make sense.

If the 6870 is as fast as the 5870 while hugely better at tessilation... and priced $270 what's not to understand? To me it was the 57XX product that was the red-head-step-child. Consider the "X7XX nomenclature" has never been a "true" model range for ATI/AMD; other than this time the X7XX was use as the pipe cleaner 4770, and in some SKU in Europe and Asia. It was a curious twist that ATI/AMD offered them this time around... they will just retire it. It did its job filling the strange disparity in the product mix back a year ago, but wasn't ever envisage as a long term product position. Stop wank'n on die size, spec's, or product linage. It about the performance / price quotient and somewhat TDP that should place a chip in a given product range. Sure it's hard to wrap your head around it at this point, but you also need consider changes being move in above them (Cayman/Achilles). I figure they'll just elevate the 5670 replacement (Turks) up the ladder and again bring back the 6650/6670 (XT/Pro) variants sometime Q1to fill the $100-150 spot. AMD plan appears to move everything up, as the next wave of on die integrated CPU/GPU (Fusion), they don't need

At this point more Stream Processors isn't necessarily gonna give you the edge. AMD is looking to control costs while also raising performance standards. By using a smaller process it will use less power creating less heat, while at the same time increasing performance. I think it looks like they are getting to the point where performance is no longer doubled every 2 years, right now it is about 1.8 to 1, next time it will probably be 1.6 to 1 and so on. Any way you look at it, AMD/ATI may have the video card market on lockdown for the next few years. I can't wait to see what the Next Gen Xbox will be capable of when it releases sometime in late 2012 early 2013 using the latest greatest ATI hardware.

It's like how the 3870 improved on the 2900 XT, but the naming is a little different this time around. I have to wonder whether or not the 6900 series is single or dual GPU.....

stock 6870 is a bit slower than 5870. but if you take a cheaper 6850 and heavy oc it, what do you get? :)

These cards are already on sale but I still can't find a review for them :(

Edit: I found the review.

"If the 6870 is as fast as the 5870 while hugely better at tessilation"

It's not as fast as the 5870. In fact, it doesn't OC well, and barely outperforms the 5850. At least the 6870 should come in slightly cheaper than the 5850. If that turns out to be true.

go look at prices
you can get 6870's for less than 5850's