I have not yet had time to properly redesign the database for video cards featuring unified shader architectures...so take these specs with a grain of salt. I'll be updating this page as I get things sorted out.

This card is UNBELIEVABLE!

128 total float1 pipelines, or 32 normal float4 pipes. Could be something to the independent threading though, but still cheesy marketing. Nice memory bandwidth though.

You need a new mechanism to delineate between float1 / float4 pipes and unified shaders. The current stats above looks like 128 float4 fragments processors plus 128 float4 vertex processors, which appears at this time to be off by a factor of 8.

Hi Mike, as you upgrade your page for these new cards, please include the power comsumption for newer cards. Best video card review page ever!

The 8800 GTX/GTS take only abt 30 watts more than the X1900 series, and they have almost twice the transistor count.

Great site, Great info about the cards, I want to see how the R600 compares.

@ slick, dont we all man

but yeah, its not 73600 shader operations per sec really, when you say shader, it means everything, they can just be allocated to whatever style they want. and according to Inq (yeah the inq but its more then just faud saying it) the shaders actually run at an astounding 1500MHz.

and unfortunately this page has it right. 90nm :(. to get the killer ocs and perhaps less power were gonna have to wait for a revision, or the 8900.

regardless, great info, great site, and i like knowing that the day this card is released you already have a nice selection of reviews for me

keep up the good work.

According to my calculations, if nVidia follows their course of action for the previous series, then they will release an 8900 GTX in a few months, wich will have 1024MB of RAM and an 80nm core. But they may surprise beyond that with a multi-GPU option.

Hey, for those of you who have purchased this card, what kind of PSU do you use? :) Thanks!

Just picked up two of the 8800 GTX's from my local COMPUSA. They actually HAD them in stock if you can believe it! BFG, not my favorite board partner, but they are good. I also picked up the extended warranty on them. It was 65 dollars each, now before you call me an idiot it's actually a replacement warranty, so when the 8900 comes out next year I can actually take these back and get the 8900's. So to me the extra 130 bucks was worth it. Now I just have to find a 680i board..... Yea, my E-PENIS is gonna be HUGE NOW LOL :)

Never heard the word E-PENIS on this site.. I dont know why u wanted to buy 2 8800 GTX's. The performance gains are not worth the price gain. The nForce 680i SLi should cost 300$.

8800's take as much power as the X1900 cards, so 400w .

Seems that you will have to build a whole new computer if you have a P4 class machine or older to properly get the FPS out of the 8800 cards. I just built a Core 2 DUO e6700 machine with the 7900 GTO ... I had the 7900 GTO in a P4 2.8HT machine and only got HALF the FPS in most games compaired to the Core 2 DUO machine,,,, AND you need enough space to put the cards in the computer..... I think my 7900 will do for a couple years... :-)

Ha, yea sorry. I was just a little excited about the two graphics cards. Anyway I did pick up a BFG 680i NVIDIA motherboard to run these in SLI, but I had to order it from COMPUSA online because they did not have any in stock at the store. By the way if anyone is interested they have them on sale at COMPUSA online for 249 --- it's the cheapest 680i motherboard I've seen online yet. From what I can tell BFG, XFX, EVGA and ASUS are all the exact same motherboard as the NVIDIA reference board. Can anyone verify this for me? Thanks

the only weakness of this card is the GDDR3 memory .

guess two 8800GTX cards in SLI mode could run "Ghost Recon" at 1600*1200 with AA4x and AF16x and 250FPS !

quite a radical idea ... hope the person who tries this has enough money for the cards and of course the upcomming electricity bill that might take peoples breath away.

Not really since the timing on this ram is 1.1ns And the x1950xtx is the same.

I have to hand it to Mike: good job with the site man. Keep up the good work.

@ Seth, I currently have two 8800 GTX cards running in SLI and they run perfectly with the BFG 1000 watt power supply they just came out with. It was recently on sale at COMPUSA for $259 and I picked one up. It is a quad RAIL doing 20 amps per RAIL or 80 amps total 12 volts. Plenty of juice, I think you could probably get away with a 700 watt power supply, but the BFG has the advantage of 4 PCI express connectors.

If u have 20A per rail, and u have 4 rails, ud be lucky to have 50A. You dont add them together. 50A is the MINIUM for 2x 8800 GTX.

I just purchased a Toughpower 750Watt PSU, I'm hoping that will run two of the GTS cards. I'm not sure though. It seems to be pretty beastly, I'm just not sure if it will be able to power all that.

ToughPower 750w will run 2 overclocked 8800 GTXs.

Hehe just wait 'till the R680/R700 are released - Nvidia's got nothing on AMD now! Anyone keep up on AMD at all? Or just ATI?

As I'm sure everyone knows, ATI was recently purchased by AMD - who also purchased the rights to a technology called PCM RAM - Phase Change Memory which is not only years ahead of GDDR4, but far far beyond MRAM!! AMD's got something up their sleave and their just waiting for the right time.

Intel thinks they've got the ball now, but there's no way AMD is going to let that last after being on top for years and years. I have a feeling this has something to do with their new proc's as well - PCM is unexplainable in terms of speed and is non-volital so I have a good feeling it may be used as their cache and possibly as their new RAM!?

The first release of the R600 is said to come in two different variations as well 1GB and 2GB - yes I know it sounds insane, but to a proffessional, this is nothing (hint - FireGL)

hhahahah
@ anonymous
yeah, everyone knows AMD bought ATI. The odd thing about that was, ATi was, at the time, working on the RD600 Chipset, which was origonally to be named "Xpress 200 Crossfire IE", but, ATI threw on a smokin memory conroller, which oced to 3.6Mhz on an E6300, (see anands review: DFI Lanparty UT ICF X3200), so they called it the Xpress 3200 IE. Anywho, AMD bought ATI and as such people wondered how intel would respond to their prime opposition making chipsets for THEIR board! well, it was quite interesting actually. It would SEEM intel twisted the arms of many companies, including asus, biostar, and MSI, to get them to not use the chipset. DFI on the otherhand, with their "95% of all our shipments are AMD socketed" had nothing to lose! They are the only board manufacturer now producing this chipset. With it being so awsome, i find it hard to believe other board makers wont catch on. Im betting ASUS will eventually have an "ROG (republic of gamers) Xpress 3200 Crossfire LGA 775" board featuring this chipset!

and one more thing, what do you think intel does now? If i were to ask Intel "what do you think i should get, a Radeon X2700XT (lets pretend thats the R600), or a Geforce 8800GTX? does he say 8800GTX, knowing that if i do that ill probibly get a 680i board to go with it? or does he say X2700XT, knowing that ill probibly get a Bad Axe 2 mobo to go with it?

X2700XT? MrWizzard is their something your not telling us?

Intel's winning streak isnt going anywhere. The new card - X2800 will use GDDR3/GDDR4 memory.

I say Intel lure a few engineers from Ati to their rumored larabee division And make their own Gpu's. I cant wait to see that smug Bastard Hector Get what deserves!

hahaha

Whats so funny? I'm serious i wanna see intel get into the gpu game it be nice to have another contender.(Not counting sis,xga,via etc etc thye crap)

Intel make their own GPUs. But only minimum-end onboard ones.

Thats why I'm saying get into the oem Gpu biz not just integrated. Nvidia does'nt wanna be bought out they got the stexy one's making a cpu for them(Stexy one's are form stexite a bunch of former intel engineers) And the 8800gtx is proof of that it's more cpu then gpu. Why do you think Nvidia is pissed at amd for buying out ati? Not just because they arch rivals but Nvidia was cooperating with amd to make a fusion like chip earlier but the difference was that Amd had no architectural call in the fusion chip's design Nvidia did everything they just wanted the amd name for marketing.(Of course they would pay for the name) But Hector wanted more influence On the original Fusion which Nvidia came up with. (Thats why Amd bought ATI not becuase they we're cheaper and it also screwed intel over aswell) And track wanna know something else? Jen-Hsun Huang(Ceo of Nvidia) from the bottom of his heart hates Intel(For what they did in the 90's) and Amd. If amd and nvidia would've merged he wanted to be Ceo of the company and if they merge with intel thats out of the question. So track please think what i said today Nvidia and Intel Merger is a hope for Paul ottelini But for Jen it's nothing more then a faraway thought in his mind(Btw in 08 expect an Nvidia Cpu)

How the hell do you know this? Do you work for Nvidia? Or do you know someone in Nvidia?

Its all speculation, dont take it too seriously.

Not really. To anonymous i have my sources thats all i'll say. *Evil Grin*

Can I run one GeForce 8800 GTX with a power supply of 460 watts? I want to know if I will have good performance.

@Diego, Maybe if it's a brand name PSU, but I wouldn't chance it. Get something bigger, 550W preferably.

I heard on the inquirer you can run it well with just 500w.(Non brand name like apevia or coolmax)

do u need a sli motherboard to run this card?

would i be able 2 use this with this non sli motherboard

http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006136R/4006136Rnv.shtml

and with this power supply http://support.gateway.com/s/POWER/6506047R/6506047Rnv.shtml

if i am not able to. wot is the best card i can run?

I have been a ATI and AMD fan from day one.
i may have made a mistake. i looked online to see what was the best thing going today.
i thought the r600 would be a while. ( i never did like to wait) sure wish i would of found this site sooner. but i ended up ordering a intel Quad core extreme QX6700 680i mobo, 8800gtx, 4 gig ddr2 pc6400,
Tough Power 850w quad sli power supply

and on that note is it even worth getting a 2nd GTX later on?

You DONT need an SLi motherboard to run this card. All u need is a single PCIe x16 slot.

the plan was to add a second GTX in about 2 months or so. after my pocketbook recovers a bit.

Only two word : IT and OWNZ

getting a second 8800GTX isnt such a smart idea since only 1 of these will be enough to run anything maxed for several months

Is it true that nvidia only manufactures chips? If they don't create video card then who sets standard in it?

Yeah don't waste your money getting another. By the time you would NEED another, the 8900 GTX or whatever will be out and you can buy that instead. It's not really worth getting two until they reach a new plateau of technology, like if they're stuck on direct x 12 or something.

Two questions, I have had an ATI 9800 for about 2 years now and I am happy that I have not spent my hard earned money on every flippen card that is a newer, better, faster (more expensive) card on the market., I can still use any graphical demanding application that is currently being introduced to the software market today.

To the questions:

1. How often should a top of the line card be upgraded so you can actually mmake use all of the applications available at any point in time? My guess is three years as when I bought the 9800 card when it was the cream of all available graphics cards at that time

2. Which card gives me the best value for money if I were to upgrade to a top of the line pc?

I am not a hardcore gamer, just an average old Joe how wants to get good value for money on my next purchase.

I thought 8800 series uses GDDR4 RAM.

Wow, this card has 5.33 times as many fragment pipelines and a whopping 16 times as many vertex pipelines as the previous generation (7900). That's impressive! What a HUGE jump in a single generation.

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@BonsaiScott: They arent the same pipelines as on the former cards.

@Anonymous: 1. Three years seems like a fair ammount of time to wait between builds if ur not a hardcore gamer or hardware enthusiest. What u should be asking urself is - "can my card run my games?" 2. The 8800 GTS 320 is I think one of the best price/performance cards, but for ppl who game at low resolutions. Perhaps u should *become* a hardcore gamer - games are amazing.

Can I run one GeForce 8800 GTX with a power supply of Thermal Take TR2 470 watts?
I want to know if I will have good performance.
my pc:
MB : Asus Commando
Case Thermal Take Kandraf : 4 fans
4 Hard Disks : 250GB
1 DVD-RW

I wouldn't count on running it on that PSU , but you can try ,it MIGHT work , but don't expect it to with those 4 HDs .

It wont work.. sorry.

I was running an 8800GTX on 480W Tagan with 5 HDs and no, it didnt work properly. There was stuttering a few times and complete crashes so i upgraded to a Thermaltake Toughpower 750w - hope that helps

so wat PSU does it take once and for all to run this card? another question can this thing handle oblivion max quality no lag as in zero lag?

Just a simple 30A PSU.
It will run anything with zero lag.

I have bought this card and I have Thermaltake 560W and it's very nice

Will this Card work on a 500w PSU with 2 12v rail, one with 15a on and the other with 18a

uhhh no?

Probably will, but I wouldn't count on it if you've got over 1 HD and several ROM drives.

Will an Intel core 2 duo E6400 Processor bottleneck badly????

Not badly, you'll still get great FPS in any game with a 8800GTX and an E6400.

Well, if to be honest, then yeah, it's going to be a bottleneck, not very tight, but still there will be a considerable performance loss. I remember some 3DMark06 benchmarks, where one guy milked almost 19,000 points (default score is about 10-11 k)in 3DMark06 with an overclocked Intel QX6800 and (1) 8800 GTX (not SLi), so you can imagine how much power this card owns.

3Dmark06 score doesn't show performance in gaming . And 3DMark06 mostly is about the CPU , so yeah the CPU will make a big difference there , but not in gaming .

"Probably will, but I wouldn't count on it if you've got over 1 HD and several ROM drives"

Ive got 1 HD and 1ROM drive and just one fan as my case get enoght air anyway (my rooms very cold most of the time lol)

Is this card better then the 2900 hd?

is this card worth buying:? ALl I have is a acer 17 inch screen is it worth it with 1280x1024

yes it's better then 2900 hd but not by alot, yes the 17 inch is worth a gtx maybe not now

A 8800 GTS 320MB is good enough for a 17" LCD with a native resolution of 1280x1024 . 8800 GTX / 8800 GTS 640MB / HD 2900 XT are good for high resolutions .

Currently using AnTEC 550w , Gigabyte 8800GTX, Kingston 1G DDR2 667 x4, Seagate 250G SATA II x2, P965 DS3 (rev3.3). Doesnt seem power is enough for running since Harddrive is running out power right now...sudden stop running and start again..

4 GB of RAM ? Lol . What CPU are you using ? And how many amps on the 12V line ? ( on your PSU )
But yeah... better get a better PSU .

Question which is better ?
(2) GeForce 8800gts 320mb in sli x16 x 2 mode or a GeForce 8800GTX 768mb single solution?

Excuse me, I meant the sli mode to be in 8x mode. Wasn't sure how much this would restrict the cards with the Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mobo.

SLI will give you from 0% to (at best) 50% increase on the original card, depending on drivers and support from games developers. As it stands, SLI is a waste of money as games developers are not supporting SLI well and you'd be better much better off getting a GTX. I got one off ebay about 3 months ago for £260 and it's the t1ts

Well thats a load of bull, SLI can give 80% or so boost depending on the game and the new games that come out that do not support SLI are 0%.

8x will not bottle neck even a 8800 GTX (tomshardware has a article on it called PCI-E scaling (too lazy to put link google it)

The 320mb 8800GTS will have better performance but can't do high resolutions (textures or screen(i.e.World in Conflict will make it crawl(use slower system RAM) as the textures are simply too much)as the 320mb is cloned to the master card.

Overall just wait for the 8800 GTs(and SLI them) they have 512 mb of RAM and are faster than the current(to be replaced by a new 112 stream chip)GTS and are cheaper for the matter.

i actually disagree that Radeon cards are ruling at the moment. The 2900 can only beat a 8800 in CF, and even though the 8800s are more expensive at the moment, AMD didnt think to make their cards able to play DX10 any good, cause from all the tests on games on DX10 that ive seen the single 8800 beat a CF 2900. unless AMD do something and make the HD3800 series any decent, and if nvid release an 8900 card, with the price drops in the future, nvid will be king and AMD will not.

I have a 650W PSU with 2 12v rail at 18 Amps. I see the video card has two inputs, will 18Amps per PCI-e on the card be enough?

I wonder if a 8800GTS 512 G92 Generation card will out perform a 8800GTX

They perform about the same... well , the 8800 GTS 512MB is SLIGHTLY faster than the 8800 GTX .
@anonymous - many games don't support SLi/CF ( some support SLi while not CF and vice versa ) .

no is not is as fast or 5%less in all game and aome exception its in front

The GTS 512 is slightly faster then the GTX at resolutions lower then 1920x1200, After that the GTX is faster.

time to buy an other one since 9800gtx/x2 suck bad

so how many amps will 2 of these need. And can they be combined amps like 4 18 amp rails.

2 years, and this card is still ripping games apart.

My Foxconn 8800GTX is running at core: 650 mem: 1100 stable!! Can play Crysis at full 4xAA, DX10 and 1280x1024 :)

3 years! and still no game in sight that can hope to render the 8800 GTX useless!

Alright, I guess any DX11 game could destroy the 8800 GTX now.

Still a VERY usable video card. I wonder how it will perform in Battlefield 3. BF3 is going to have full support for DX10, and 11. No DX9 I don't think.