Crysis Gaming Performance Improvements Tips. [Archive]

Lucky Luke

08-09-2008, 05:02 PM

Guys,

I need help from you. I am dying to play Crysis in its best quality ever since I bought the original game few months ago. However, I've been researching that this graphic-intensive game really consumes A LOT and I really mean A LOTTT of computer resources. Currently, here are my PC specs after the mod :

CPU : Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 at 2.33Ghz
RAM : 3072 Mb at 667Mhz speed
GPU : ATI Radeon X1950 Pro at 256Mb of dedicated memory
Motherboard : ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 - motherboard - micro ATX - i945GC

When I played Crysis using these specs, the game's AutoDetect performance function allows me to play at "MEDIUM" setting at 800X600 while my monitor is an 1440X900 screen. Strangely, not more than 5 mins after the start, the game ALWAYS CRASHED. It simply Freezes and I must restart the PC.

I have earlier posted a thread here entitled "Pci - Express 2.0 X16 Graphic Card and Pci - Express Motherboard compatibility." and confirmed to purchase a Radeon 4870 X2 at the end of this month. My questions are :

1. Does purchasing the Radeon 4870 X2 alone enough to push my overall PC performance when playing Crysis?

2. When I purchased that card, what is the recommended PSU (Power supply unit) required to feed the card with enough power? Any brand you can mention?

Thanks for your time :)

Radiator

08-09-2008, 05:36 PM

For Crysis , you'll be needing a better CPU ( Get an E8400 and OC the hell out of it ) and faster RAM .
As for the PSU... you'll be needing a good quality 700W PSU , if not better .
As for Crysis... it never crashed on my PC... not even at fully medium at 1024x768... ofcourse it did run at 10-20 FPS =.= . But when it's at 15-20 FPS , I do find it playable .

axesupra

08-09-2008, 06:21 PM

u do want to either overclock that cpu of urs, which could be a pain
or like radiator said the e8400 would be great, its crazy cheap and overclocks beautifully, prepare to have a good cooler though.
spend at least 150 dollars on a PSU, and u dont need faster ram, ddr2 at 667mhz is just fine.
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aliquidparadigm

08-09-2008, 06:54 PM

Will you be able to play Crysis at absolutely max settings with just one 4870x2? Nope.

You will likely be able to put most things on high or very high, but AA will be limited to 2x or 4x still.

You max experience a bit of a bottleneck from the CPU; emphasis is on "a bit," as you'll likely still be getting playable framerates.

For instance, with my system I am able to run most things at High with shaders on Very High and a couple of things on Medium with a resolution of 1920x1200 and 4xADAA, 16xAF while maintaining something in the area of 25-40 FPS. It is an insanely shader intensive game, so that's where you'll usually hit your ceiling.

You will probably bottleneck your CPU before you ever reach the GPUs full power, though; I would be thoroughly surprised if you were able to get 30 FPS in areas were I would be able to get 40. 30 FPS is more than playable, though.

As for PSU, you will probably only need a good 600w-er. I would say the S610EPS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005) would do, but you could go with the S750Q (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009) just to be safe. I can personally verify the 750Q would be enough, as I have a pair of 4870s, which are more of a power hog than one 4870x2 will be.

Radiator

08-09-2008, 07:58 PM

AA in Crysis is a performance killer , it'd be better to leave it off , and just use very high .

hdantman

08-09-2008, 09:53 PM

I agree with Radiator and Axe--8400 OC'd and a better PSU. No new RAM. You'll have problems in the game from not enough RAM, but speed really isn't too big a factor here. Worst case you'll see slower load times.

Lucky Luke

08-10-2008, 01:32 AM

Thanks guys. Your reply are really useful! I'll consider all your suggestions. :)

andrew2004gto

08-10-2008, 04:39 AM

Lucky Luke

08-10-2008, 08:05 AM

thats weird try to overclock your cpu and video card and have the must recent driver, because i can play all medium@1280x800 average 31fps on my 8600m gt clock 666/1566/605, Im sure u will figure it out and how big is your psu cause i used to get crashes with my old psu when i had a 8800gts vmoded and everything overclock on a 600watt now i have a 850watt

So far I know how to do overclocking for my X1950 Pro Radeon Graphic Card. It's through the Catalyst Control Centre under the ATI Overdrive section. As soon as I do OC, it makes the gameplay crashes ever earlier. Lol. I think OC makes the game performance worse as compared to normal settings for my GPU. I have also ensured that the card's driver is the latest. I just downloaded it from Ati website. On the other hand,I don't know how to OC for my processor? Any special software requires downloading? As for my PSU, I couldn't get the exact Real Power Rating, but I found this on the PSU :

"Combined Power on +3.5V and +5V rails not exceed 130W.
Combined Power on +12V1 and +12V2 rails not exceed 20A.
At ambient 25 Deg Celcius, Total Output Power shall not exceed 300W.
At ambient 50 Deg Celcius, Total Output Power shall not exceed 270W."

The PSU brand is LiteOn. Anyone heard of that brand?

andrew2004gto

08-10-2008, 05:33 PM

Well i think the psu is your problem, when u overclocked it started to take more power and crashes earlier, does it like crash out of the game, or windows?, and use atitool to overclock the gpu, and idk if u cant go into the bios, i guess cpugen for cpu but havent used that since my dell 2 years ago

Radiator

08-10-2008, 05:42 PM

You definitely need a better PSU ... even with your current setup .

Lucky Luke

08-10-2008, 11:07 PM

Well,yeah..it's gotta be the power supply. In fact,it was the same PSU I had before I changed my graphic card. Previously,it was an X1550. The kind of crash I got was a crash in the game itself without quitting to Windows. It has vert. lines n it's stuck.

Radiator

08-10-2008, 11:37 PM

As for a performance increasing tips , try the cuban mod or whatever it was called , it supposedly makes it run better on the same settings ( I haven't tried it , though , haven't had Crysis installed for a long while ) .

Lucky Luke

08-11-2008, 02:12 PM

Uhm, guys. Sorry to ask you this question but I really have no idea about this. Is there such thing as a "limitation" for a motherboard that can take in when I install a lot of new stuffs later on? Will the PC be able to perform at optimum performance? I don't wanna buy a new motherboard anymore coz I just purchase it less than 6 mths ago. The 3 stuffs I will definitely purchase in the near future are :

1. An Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 Ghz. (Currently is an Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 Ghz)

2. An ATI Radeon 4870 X2. (Currently is an ATI Radeon X1950 Pro)

3. A 600W Real Power Rating PSU. (Currently, my PSU rating is around 300W at 25 Deg C)

My current Motherboard is an ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 - motherboard - micro ATX - i945GC. Thanks for the reply :)

Radiator

08-11-2008, 02:32 PM

Well , if you have an LGA775 slot and a PCIe X16 slot , there shouldn't be a real difference .

andrew2004gto

08-11-2008, 06:46 PM

well your cpu isnt bad i would just overclock it, and idk if you dont wanna upgrade your botherboard idk if the e8400 will work, u can overclock it to at least 3.00ghz i had a e4300@3500mhz and you will need a better supply with 4870x2 i would just got a 4850 it would be a huge upgrade with alot less power

hdantman

08-11-2008, 07:06 PM

If you have the processor you listed, the 8400 will work just fine in your mobo.

andrew2004gto

08-11-2008, 11:55 PM

yea but he might need a bios update, but he should be able to overclock it to 3.6ghz on air for his cpu, i would got get the powersupply, i would at least get a 700watt if u wanna be able to upgrade

Lucky Luke

08-12-2008, 01:57 AM

Darn,why am I so noob abt these jargons. Radiator, you said abt the LGA775 socket,rite? How do I ensure it's available at my mobo? If my mobo can take in an E6550 now, does that mean LGA775 is also there? As for PCI-E X16, I knw what's that. Lol. ;-)

hdantman

08-12-2008, 02:24 AM

That's what I was getting at. Sorry for not being specific. If you have any Core 2 processor, such as the E6650, you should have no problem with upgrading your CPU to the E8400 processor. Yes, they are both LGA 775 processors, and yes, your mobo is an LGA 775 mobo.

I have no idea what you could OC your 6650 to, but the 8400 goes easily upwards of 4GHZ. Of course, your mobo plays a big part in this.

aliquidparadigm

08-12-2008, 06:10 AM

I'm pretty sure his board won't be able to push an e8400 that far, but he should be able to accomplish 3.3-3.6 without much of a problem.

Lucky Luke

08-12-2008, 07:20 AM

Hmm,okay. It's clearer now. So my mobo's compatible with an E8400. Hm,I don't REALLY see the need to OC a 3Ghz core 2 duo proc. as Crysis recommends 2.4Ghz. A 0.6Ghz difference should be enough...hopefully. I don't wanna dmg anything that early. LOL.;-)

aliquidparadigm

08-12-2008, 11:40 AM

You'll have to flash the BIOS, but yeah, it's compatible.

Headfoot

08-14-2008, 05:38 PM

A good quality 600w or 650w power supply should do you well. Just make sure you double check the amperage on the 12v rails, as that is the real determinant. I am not sure how much amperage the 4870X2 needs, but I know it consumes roughly 270 watts.

Also, go to Crymod.com and look up the performance mod. It apparently tweaks some things in Crysis to get better performance with little to no degradation of visual quality. I have not yet tried it myself, I downloaded it but I dont have enough time to try it yet!

Lucky Luke

08-15-2008, 08:30 AM

Thanks for the advice,Headfoot. Getting more confidence here,lol. Btw, the price of the card is up. It's US$549. I don't know about the shipping cost and I don't know how much will it be when the cards arrive in Singapore,my town. Seems like the 4870 X2 really need careful attention about the PSU I am gonna buy too. Definitely my current PSU won't be enough coz it only provides 300W at 25Deg C.

Lucky Luke

08-15-2008, 04:52 PM

Uhm, Guys. I need a help from you here. How do I make a display of the FPS on Crysis? Do I have to download a software from the net or is it already included on the game itself and I just need to activate it? I need that to confirm the actual FPS generated for my computer with my current hardware settings. Thanks in advance :)

Radiator

08-15-2008, 04:54 PM

Google helps... I can't remember the line anymore .
But you can always use FRAPS , which is rather easy to use and less annoying , than the whole load of text you get from the game's FPS counter .

Lucky Luke

08-17-2008, 01:18 PM

Okay,Radiator. I have followed your tips and yeah it works,dude :). I am now using FRAPS and now I know my FPS for Crysis. Darn, it's so low. I am playing at 800X600, everything set to LOW except for Shader at MEDIUM and Shadow at MEDIUM. Even with these settings I only get average of 20 - 35 FPS. Looks pathetic to me. :(

Another thing I'd like to ask; I seemed to be convinced to purchase a Radeon 4870 X2 over the 280GTX due to the fact that 4870 X2 performs an overall 30% better than the 280GTX <everyone agree?>. I'll also get at 700W PSU soon. My question is, now I am using a E6550 Processor running at 2.33Ghz without OC. I decided not to buy a faster processor yet coz I just purchased it barely 4 mths ago. So, without OC the processor, can I get at least a 30 FPS with all settings to HIGH for Crysis without AA at all?

Now, if I want to OC my current processor, how to do that? I've been searching at the BIOS page and couldn't find that settings. Is the E6550 an Overclockable processor in the first place? Sorry for asking lots of qns and thanks for answering :).

Radiator

08-17-2008, 02:27 PM

You can set everything to very high and still get over 30 FPS ( provided you don't use 2560x1600 , on which you'll get 30 FPS or so ) .
That's IF and only IF you use the catalyst 8.8 beta drivers , though .

Lucky Luke

08-17-2008, 02:47 PM

Yeah, I'd supposed to get at least 30 FPS when everything set to VERY HIGH with those new hardwares I'm gonna buy soon. Thanks,dude. Don't worry,Radiator..for my screen monitor is not that big. It's only a 19" widescreen LCD display with max resolution up to 1440X900 only :). To me, I'd be really happy when I can play up to that resolution with the FPS averaged at 30 FPS. If not, I'd blame the processor and look for ways to OC it. Lol.