7600gs vs 8600gt/gts

[xycose]

I have a 7600GS right now. which was a mistake itself. there was 2 minites left on a ebay auction and i misread it got an GT. but what can you do, it wa my fault.

anyways, I'm looking to get a new card, i wanted to get a 8600 and was looking into the GTS, thought it would be worth the extra cash over the GT. Anyways im reading the reviews for the cards and everyone seems to say "good card, but can find better dx9 cards for the money for todays games, and the 128bit bus is bad and blah blah blah.

What would you guys suggest i do? My main question i guess would be How much of a performace gain would i get going from a 7600GS to a 8600GTS?

I wanted to go for DX10 so i could play the newest games and i have vista already, so why not? but I also dont want to see a small about of performance gain for 160$.


If it matters for any reason i was looking at the eVGA and the XFX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130084

and if it matters, i tend to like to play on 1600x1200 or higher with my 19 inch CRT.(sometimes my 21inch, i can never decide which i like better, my 21 is bigger, and goes to even high res then the 17xx x 13xx my 19 can go to, but my 19 has a highlight thing that makes he picture look bright and sexy.)

I plan to buy a 22inch LCD in about a month though that'll do 1680x1050 max so that's what i'll be playing on then.

[Eric]

The 8600gts is much faster then the 7600gs
here are some benches
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2107&page=5
however the degree at witch it will be beter depends on what you get a OC version or a stock one but its safe to say that the stock 8600 gts is still faster then the 7600gs.
You should get a 20 to 40 more fps with the 8600gts.

[xycose]

I knew it had to be better, just wanted to make sure it was going to be 4fps on all my games, or it would be pointless.

I plan to get one of the cards in the links because the OC versions start to get a lot more, I'll probably OC some myself though.

I just want to make sure im not waisting my money since I want to upgrae everything else.

right now i have
AMD X2 4400+
2GB (1GBx2) DDR400 ram.(DDR333, but i set it all to DDR400, runs stable)
7600GS

I would potentially want a Intel Conroe E6600 and 4GB of DDR800 ram, but I don't think i have enough cash for that, I'm for sure going to settle for 2GB of DDR800 for now, then upgrade to 4GB later on. Probably get a single 2GB stick, then another single 2GB stick later.

Not sure what I'm going to do about the processor, I thought when i was looking at them a while back they were cheaper, but i must have been looking at another model or something.

[Eric]

If your gonna go too core2duo your gonna have to buy a new motherboard aswell since you have amd
Heres a link to a core2duo E6600 its 223$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

[xycose]

yeah I know, either way I'm going to need a new mobo, since right now i have the socket 939 amd. if i had an am2 right now i would defiantly stick with amd and go for a 5600 or a 6000+ or something, and save myself 100$ on a mobo

I dont think im going to be able to afford a E6600 even though thats what i really would like. not sure what im going to go for.

[Radiator]

With a 8600 GTS , I wouldn't count on running games on 1600x1200 .
Anyway , the performance increase will be quite large .

[Eric]

Well you could run games at 1600x1200 but just not at max settings

[xycose]

With a 8600 GTS , I wouldn't count on running games on 1600x1200 .
Anyway , the performance increase will be quite large .

thats interesting because i play alot of games at 1600x1200 already.


anyways i ordered an XFX GTS

[Eric]

Well if you look at the benchmark I linked in the other post youl see that you can play at 1600x1200 with the 8600gts and it will still be fast but im thinking this card is made for 1024x768 - 1280x1024 because of its memory bus of only 128 bit.

Can you tell me what your computer specs are and how well it runs for you with the 8600gts because i plan to buy a xfx 8600gts xxx by the end of the year.

[Marine-RX179]

I am considering about buying a 8600 GTS 256MB card. I am only using a 17-inch mon, and I can only run games at max 1280X1024 resolution on WinXP.

I was looking at the 8600GTS cards info on ebuyer, and the price is from the lowest £111.50/£111.85 (Innovision 3D/Point Of View) up to £157.72 (XFX 8600GTS XXX version).

I realise some manufacturers' cards are more expensive because of the over-clocking and such, but what I would like to know is that if the extra Core Clock and Memory Clock speed going to make much differences at all running in 1280x1024...because if it doesn't, then there would be no point for me to spend extra £20~£45 on it ain't it?

P.S. Do I need to get a PCI Express 6 Pin Power Cable (2 x Molex to 6 Pin PCI-E) for this card? Cause my PSU doesn't has a 6 Pin Power connector. Also, would my 450 Watt PSU be enough power to use this card?
Also, how is the performance of this card comparing to ATi Radeon X1950 XT PCI-E in terms of running DirectX9 games like Half-life 2 etc?

[Radiator]

X1950 XT is faster than the 8600GTS .
Your PSU will do just fine .
But better get the 8600 GT , you can easily OC it to match the 8600 GTS and pay a hell of a lot less for it .
So yeah , either get a DX9 card for DX9 games or the 8600 GT/GTS for DX10 and DX9 games . Or better yet save up a little more money and get a 8800GTS 320MB .

[Marine-RX179]

Thanks for the quick reply. I think I will just get a X1950 XT instead of 8600 series afterall. I looked up the benchmark scores of 3Dmark06, and X1950 XT got 6600 marks, while the standard 8600GTS only got a pitiful 5320 marks in comparison (even if over-clocked from the standard 675/1000 to 780/1125, the score is still only got from 5320 to 6009, which is still around 600 lower than the score of X1950 XT)...so I will choose performance over a extra feature (DirectX 10) which I probably wouldn't use any time soon...(I bought Quake 4 last year and I still haven't got round to playing it...too much Counter-Strike Source lol).

[Marine-RX179]

Can someone please tell me which one is better in performance...Sapphire X1950XT or the Connect3D X1950XT? Thanks.

[Radiator]

Well , if both of them are at stock clocks , they are equal .

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