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Gainward 7800GS+ is the single most powerful AGP Graghic card out in the market, with a 7900GT Chipset, and the strong silent cooling, it delivers a 24 Pixel Pipeline, and 8 Vertex. Although this website seems to have choosen the X850 XT PE as the best AGP Card, i doubt that it would be close in performance compared to the 7800GS+ which also comes with a 512 MB Memory. 450mhz core, 1250 RAM (625mhz DDR) has PCI-E socket for power, AGP 8X & CineFx 4.0 support, 128-bit studio-precision computation, and requires a 450w or greater PSU in order for it to run smoothly.

People have managed to reach 10051 Score in 3DMark 2005, and 5201 in 3DMark 2006, when they used new cooling system and overclocked this monster to its max. These scores would and could never be achieved using a X850 XT PE, mainly because its not a 24 Pipeline, 8 Vertex, these two factors increase the performance of this videocard by almost double then that of the original un-touched 7800 GS's.

So why does this website suggest that the X850XT PE is the strongest AGP when this could knock it down any day?

Please say your scores and opinion regarding this card or other high-end AGP cards and compare them with this one.

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I don't disagree with you, the 7800 GS+ is definitely faster. However, I don't really consider it for a couple of reasons:

1. Gainward doesn't sell many cards in the US.
2. Availability is low
3. It does not conform to a reference card specification.

#3 is the big one. I recommend the best reference card based on the average retail card. In this case, the difference between the reference card and the retail card is huge, so is the difference between this one retail card and all other retail cards based on the 7800 gs.

In the end I feel that putting the Gainward card up as the best AGP card would just be confusing for most people who wouldn't be able to find it and would just grab a different 7800 GS...or for people who find it, then see the regular 7800 GS for $100 cheaper and don't know the difference.

Basically, if you know about the gainward card, and you know where to find one, then you don't need me to tell you what the best agp card is. For everyone else, the short answer is, the x850xtpe is faster than the 7800gs.

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I don't disagree with you, the 7800 GS+ is definitely faster. However, I don't really consider it for a couple of reasons:

1. Gainward doesn't sell many cards in the US.
2. Availability is low
3. It does not conform to a reference card specification.

#3 is the big one. I recommend the best reference card based on the average retail card. In this case, the difference between the reference card and the retail card is huge, so is the difference between this one retail card and all other retail cards based on the 7800 gs.

In the end I feel that putting the Gainward card up as the best AGP card would just be confusing for most people who wouldn't be able to find it and would just grab a different 7800 GS...or for people who find it, then see the regular 7800 GS for $100 cheaper and don't know the difference.

Basically, if you know about the gainward card, and you know where to find one, then you don't need me to tell you what the best agp card is. For everyone else, the short answer is, the x850xtpe is faster than the 7800gs.


Not to mention that if Mike is going to decide that manufacturer-specific cards go in...well, there'd be a bit of work to do seeing as manufacturers have a bad habit of making cards up.

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