lighter in one hand....beer in tha other....HELP

[T-REX6969]

:mad:
OOoOoOooooOOOK------- I HAVE A LIL PROB..... I LOVE TA PLAY GAMES ONLINE....ALOT...LOL IAM STUCK ON BF-2 AIX MOD. AN I LOVE IT....I JUS WENT OUT AN PICKT UP A FEW THINGS FOR MY TOY.. TO MAKE IT RUN FASTER AN BETTER>>> I THOUGHT<<..IAM NOT SURE WHAT I DID WRONG BUT IT RUNS LIKE CRAP DURIN GAMES ...HERES WHAT I HAVE ----A CHEEP A--S AMD Sempron(tm) Processor, 3200+, 1.80 GHz, 1.00 GB of RAM, xp pro, s.p.-3, OK AN WHAT I ADDED WAS>>>>2.00 MORE GB OF RAM,TOTAL 3.00 GB, A MAXTER HARD DRIVE> 1 TB, NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT PCIe, CREATIVE SBLIVE!, >>AWE AN I HAVE #2 MONITERS HUCKT UP...WELL ONES A HDTV..ELEMENT 32"FLAT SCREEN, AN THA OTHER IS A DELL 1501FP(digital), i have them both goin in tha GT....IS THERE SUMTHIN I CAN AJUST TA FIX IT???? OR SHOULD I MAKE IT SNOW,, AN RUN AN GET ME A SLI BRD, FOR AN EARLY CHRISTMAS PREZ TO MA SELF??????----LOLOL. WICH WOULD BE FUN AS H-----LL...HO-HOOO.....IFYA CAN HELP,,,,IT WOULD BE WAY COOL..wow didnt know i typet that much stuff,,SRY >> 8byA T-REX6969<<

[-RK]

Damn, I'm workin' my way up to your state of mind.

What was your setup before the upgrades? I hardly understood your post, so I bet you'll be sober before I see a reply.

[senorbolsa]

Try unhooking one of the monitors and installing the latest drivers a 9500gt cant support 2 hi res monitors. I you want to keep both reduce the resoloution. Make sure you have the right ram + get better cpu when u can i found some nice amd's on newegg for 50bux. Hope this helps ^^.

[T-REX6969]

yes now that i look at it . i gess i was a lil buzzzd. lol.
so you think its jus tha moniters huh....i have the ddr2 ram...
my typeing an spelling, an grammer well never get eny better,,,, sry,,,,my friends get on ma a--s all tha time bout it...lol BUTTT if ya read it like it looks ...makes perfect sence.....WIN YER DRINKING THAT IS.....LOLOL
so ill try unhookin one....an thx

[Radiator]

Damn ... that was hard to read and even harder to comprehend .
As I understood you get crappy performance in games ... the reason for that is your AMD Sempron 3200+ , a mere 1GB of RAM and that 9500 GT .
You should do yourself a favour and get a brand new PC... and learn some grammar too >.> .

[entropy13]

Damn ... that was hard to read and even harder to comprehend .
As I understood you get crappy performance in games ... the reason for that is your AMD Sempron 3200+ , a mere 1GB of RAM and that 9500 GT .
You should do yourself a favour and get a brand new PC... and learn some grammar too >.> .

Well, he did add 2GB of RAM to make it 3GB, but still, his CPU and GPU would hardly give out high fps at the very least in most games.

[-RK]

Did your upgrades improve performance at all? Is the second monitor a new addition?

If you're running 2 monitors at high resolutions while gaming on a 9500gt you will be screwed for performance. That Sempron isn't helping any either.

[T-REX6969]

well its like this....i came on here for help. witch i got...not a speech class....or a typeing class...iam a 42 yr old man in a wheelchair, an my computers conected to my chair, an i have ta type with a straw i blow in...so sry if sumov ma words are spellt wrong....glad you had fun with it philapin boyiiiie-----THX:confused:

[T-REX6969]

LOLOLOL JUS BULLSHITEN YA....BUTT WHAT IF??????
SO NEXT TIME SUMONE ASK YER OPPINION ON SUMTHIN...
STICK TO THA SUBJECT....DONT THROW YER WORDS OUT THERE LIKE YER ALL THAT....YOU ANSWERD MA QW.. JUS FINE SO -----GESS YOU CAN READ THIS LOW GRAMMER SHIT...HUH???? IAM GETTING A NEW PC...WAS PLANNING ON IT.. AS THA GRAMMER PART... YOU SHOULD OF KEPT THAT BITCH MOVE SHIT TO YERSELF...THINK AN SHOW RESPECT ...BEFOR YOU CUT SUMONE DOWN,,,,YOU DONT KNOW....we cooool???:)

[Radiator]

LOLOLOL JUS BULLSHITEN YA....BUTT WHAT IF??????
SO NEXT TIME SUMONE ASK YER OPPINION ON SUMTHIN...
STICK TO THA SUBJECT....DONT THROW YER WORDS OUT THERE LIKE YER ALL THAT....YOU ANSWERD MA QW.. JUS FINE SO -----GESS YOU CAN READ THIS LOW GRAMMER SHIT...HUH???? IAM GETTING A NEW PC...WAS PLANNING ON IT.. AS THA GRAMMER PART... YOU SHOULD OF KEPT THAT BITCH MOVE SHIT TO YERSELF...THINK AN SHOW RESPECT ...BEFOR YOU CUT SUMONE DOWN,,,,YOU DONT KNOW....we cooool???:)

Whom was that directed towards ?
It is REALLY hard to read and even harder to understand what you're writing . When someone asks a question with grammar like that , people often miss some really important vital parts of your query , due to the horrid grammar , hence it's harder to answer your question . You just make it harder for others .
Bah , sod it , I will no longer reply in this thread .
And if that post was directed towards me , then you can sod off by all means .

[-RK]

LOLOLOL JUS BULLSHITEN YA....BUTT WHAT IF??????
SO NEXT TIME SUMONE ASK YER OPPINION ON SUMTHIN...
STICK TO THA SUBJECT....DONT THROW YER WORDS OUT THERE LIKE YER ALL THAT....YOU ANSWERD MA QW.. JUS FINE SO -----GESS YOU CAN READ THIS LOW GRAMMER SHIT...HUH???? IAM GETTING A NEW PC...WAS PLANNING ON IT.. AS THA GRAMMER PART... YOU SHOULD OF KEPT THAT BITCH MOVE SHIT TO YERSELF...THINK AN SHOW RESPECT ...BEFOR YOU CUT SUMONE DOWN,,,,YOU DONT KNOW....we cooool???:)


Cool it bro, we're trying to help you out the best we can. It's just really damn hard to tell what you're asking.

[T-REX6969]

You Guys Are Right......i Am Truly Sorry For How I Took Your Help As Sumthing Else......i Feel Like A Dipshit,,,gess I Took A Long Day At Work With A Bunch Of Moody Ppl Home With Me...for What Its Worth....iam Sorry..it Will Not Happin Again...

[aguila50003]

OK... as far as i know... or understand in your query.... the problem is the CPU i mean de sempron...the game isnt made for multicore as far as i know, it is BF 2... so it is quite an old game by now.... anyway.... depending on your computers specs i would suges you to change that CPU to atleast an athlon64x2.... the ram only afects when you are under 1GB in that game even in XP so if you are using Vista you would need 2GB.... remember the GPU is only a 50% of the gaming performance in the computer.... i had the same problems in any game with my GTX295 i bought it like 2 months ago and when it arived at my place i was exited only to notice that the performance didnt change a little from my old 8800GTX.....and i was like....WTF!!! this is the fastest and almighty GPU in the world??? ... i had 4 GB 1066mhz and a Celeron D 1.8GHZ...then i sold the CPU and problem solved when i instaled the new 2.4 Core2Duo....it is smooth and cool now =)...i hope it helped a bit... all we ask is a little more specific query and a polite question :D

[-RK]

Dude, the GPU is WAY more than 50% of the gaming performance of a computer. Games don't eat up very much CPU power at all compared to the raw rendering power that they require. A weak CPU will bottleneck a high end card pretty thoroughly though, because the resulting data from all the GPU's crunching eventually needs to go through the CPU.

The 9500gt isn't really powerful enough to hit a serious bottleneck with a sempron.

Did you try unhooking the second monitor yet? How about running a benchmark? Is the performance better or worse than before you did your upgrades?

[aguila50003]

I know is way more than 50% of the comp performance but if you dont have enough amount or speed on RAM there is no way a GPU or a CPU would fix the problem.... the same if any of the other components arent fast enough... 9500 is a mid low GPU... so it is obvious you cant run DX10 games at very high...or use PhisX, Shaders, Bloom, AA, Vertical Sync...etc but if you dont even have the CPU to make its work done there isnt even a chance to pump the GPU to its max even if you try to overclock it, it wont even overclock...(EVGA tools)....

anyway the easiest but not the cheapest way to fix that is buy a new CPU and more RAM but even so there is a fact you must think before taking that steep, and that is; thinking in future expansions and upgrades....

as always a PSU (650w) and MOBO capable of pumping later because if you get 4GB (in vista 64x, ubuntu or any crap out there that can manage to use the 4GB at real) and it is DDR 400mhz, it is pointless because using 2GB DDR2 800mhz (wich is cheaper than the DDR1 actualy) will give you a better performance and all you need is

-a core 2 duo (200usd)
-2GB DDR2 800mhz 50 usd
-mobo for those 100usd....

this will make your computer go like wind in your 9500 (limited only by the games you play and the power of your GPU ofcourse)

anyway not everyone has the cash to do that (like me, i had to save for almost a year to buy a GTX 295) so i only sugest you to get a new CPU atleast faster than the one you have.... and if you can upgrade more... get a new Computer hehhehehehe:D

[Radiator]

The 9500 GT isn't limited by the CPU nor the amount of RAM .
As RK already stated ( atleast I think , can't be bothered to scroll up ) , the problem is that it's got two monitors connected , one of them is a high resolution HDTV . The only ways to get around that is to either buy a brand new and much more powerful PC , or unhook the HDTV .

[-RK]

I know is way more than 50% of the comp performance but if you dont have enough amount or speed on RAM there is no way a GPU or a CPU would fix the problem.... the same if any of the other components arent fast enough... 9500 is a mid low GPU... so it is obvious you cant run DX10 games at very high...or use PhisX, Shaders, Bloom, AA, Vertical Sync...etc but if you dont even have the CPU to make its work done there isnt even a chance to pump the GPU to its max even if you try to overclock it, it wont even overclock...(EVGA tools)....

anyway the easiest but not the cheapest way to fix that is buy a new CPU and more RAM but even so there is a fact you must think before taking that steep, and that is; thinking in future expansions and upgrades....

as always a PSU (650w) and MOBO capable of pumping later because if you get 4GB (in vista 64x, ubuntu or any crap out there that can manage to use the 4GB at real) and it is DDR 400mhz, it is pointless because using 2GB DDR2 800mhz (wich is cheaper than the DDR1 actualy) will give you a better performance and all you need is

-a core 2 duo (200usd)
-2GB DDR2 800mhz 50 usd
-mobo for those 100usd....

this will make your computer go like wind in your 9500 (limited only by the games you play and the power of your GPU ofcourse)

anyway not everyone has the cash to do that (like me, i had to save for almost a year to buy a GTX 295) so i only sugest you to get a new CPU atleast faster than the one you have.... and if you can upgrade more... get a new Computer hehhehehehe:D


I'm sorry but you're missing the point. The 9500 isn't bottlenecked by a sempron. A 1.8ghz sempron with 3gb DDR400 and a geforce 9500gt is quite nicely balanced for a budget system. The problem is that he's running two high resolution monitors on a card that can't handle a single high resolution monitor in games. Even if he had a Core i7 with 12gb triple channel DDR3 it wouldn't perform well.

Try running Crysis at 1600x1200 on a 9500gt. You'll see what I mean.

Your example with your gtx295 doesn't apply here, that card is insanely powerful and most CPUs before the Intel e8xxx series are going to bottleneck it. Your CPU couldn't get the card the data to crunch fast enough, and you were probably hitting the same problem with the 8800. They are both high end cards though. The 9500gt comes nowhere close to that amount data.

[T-REX6969]

i really thank you guys for your help.....it made me realise tha computer i have know is jus not for gameing....sooo,,,MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ME....LOL. tha thing is i do have money. ive workt ma ass off for what i have.....so i orderd me a new toy...its going to be here in 5 to 6 working days.....let me know wachya think...NEW Area-51 X58 Wartime Edition
http://www.alienware.com/products/area-51-x58-desktop.aspx

[-RK]

Oh, whoa. Pretty. Personally I would have gone with building my own, but if you've got the cash and don't want to be bothered setting up your own system...

Do yourself a favor though if you're doing this, get the lowest end graphics card you can with the system and just buy and install a high end card yourself. They're putting some really excessive overhead on the price there.

[aguila50003]

Buy the computer by parts and asemble it yourself.... alienware is good...and has some of the performance computers around...but i have always tought that buy an alienware is like buying a Mac...

you are buying the "Brand"... ok i know that mac blah blah blah youll give your point that mac not for gamig etc... but my point is that you better buy the parts and asemble it yourself itll be alot cheaper...

and about the other post from the 9500

my point comparing is that either way.... the GPU or the CPU he would need to buy a better computer

if you buy a better GPU youll get a bottleneck
and if you buy a new CPU you cant get enoug form the GPU

you say crysis?? you dont need crysis to show the low performance of a 9500 all you need is activate the AA and vertical Sync in any game from last year and youll get your bottle neck even using an i7

[-RK]

The exaggeration was quite deliberate.

And vertical sync? vsync is basically just a framerate limiter, it doesn't impact performance significantly. If your screen refresh rate is at 60hz your fps is limited to an equal or lower multiple to eliminate tearing. So if you were getting 40fps in a game you would be limited to 30 fps or one frame every second refresh cycle. If you were getting 140fps and enabled vsync then it would drop the framerate to 60fps to match the monitor's refresh rate. While it does seem to impact performance when your fps is below the refresh rate, it's effect stays the same no matter what performance level the card is at or the game requires. It doesn't put much demand at all on the GPU.

None of this changes my point that he could have likely gotten better performance by lowering the resolution or disconnecting one of the monitors. The higher resolution is likely putting more demand on the GPU, not the rest of the system. More pixels being drawn means more workload for the GPU.

[T-REX6969]

I did order tha 51.not assembled...checked it out,,,,hard to balieve but it nockt off almost 300.00 bucks,almost didnt catch it in time thow,so thanks on that,,,
RK on my other prob....well no prob enymore,,lol.
i took one of tha moniters off,,had to leave the HD. I HAVE IT set on component.id rather HDMI but dont have that hook up on my card ,,,what could i get to hook up to HDMI if i wanted,,,if there is enything,,,sry, i went off subject... running at 720p HD, 1280 x 720 pixels,,but when iam in game i set it all on low..runs like a stript ape,,,BIG ASS def. wish i wouldve did it earlyer...i gess i thought sence tha card had 2 hook ups,,,it could handle 2 in game too>>>>NOT<<<<..lol.
you guys have taught me alot so far....SO HOW MUCH FOR GRAMMER LESSONS.....LolOLol
my G.F. wants this one win i get tha new one..
she does alot of artwork an pic shit, on tha comp..for our shop...eny suggestions on settings for that...
it does fine so far, sence i added 2 GB ram. we do orders over tha net to...so ifya need enything, HALLA..we own a T-shirt shop an airbrush works,,plus embrordery. check us out www.bitchenstichen.com cool name huh?? she hasnt caught on that i named it after what she does all day. not because of her quality of work...lol.j.k.
well i hope this wasnt to hard to desiphur..lol----thax again ppls

[-RK]

Does she use Photoshop, Corel Suite, or programs like that? If so that PC should do just fine. Do you know what socket type the CPU is? I'm guessing it's 754 if you're running a sempron with regular old DDR.

Image editing programs are generally reliant on the CPU and RAM, so if you decide you need to upgrade go with those first.

Oh, and to run HDMI you would need a DVI to HDMI adapter. You would need to check to make sure the card is hooked up to recieve sound so it can pass it through with the video signal. Take a look, there should be a small (very small) connector on the video card with a wire coming from it. If the wire is hooked to something on your motherboard or sound card then you're set.