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Diamond's HD 3870 and HD 3850 pages are up!

Using our parser I have located two Diamonds in the rough. [Crickets chirping]

Tough crowd. Anyway, I present you the websites for Diamond's new HD 3870 and HD 3850. Here are the essential specifications for the HD 3870 to whet your appetite:


  • GPU: ATI Radeon™ 3870
  • Bus Type: PCI-Express X16 (PCI Express 2.0)
  • Core Clock: 775 MHZ
  • Memory Size: 512MB
  • Memory Configuration: 16Mx32 GDDR4
  • Memory Interface: 256-Bit
  • Memory Speed: 1.2 GHz
  • API Support: DirectX® 9.0 and 10.0, OpenGL
  • Display Formats: Two Dual Link DVI + HDTV-Out

I would also like to point out Diamond's PSU suggestions of "A 450 Watt or greater (650 for CrossFire™) power supply recommended" for both the HD 3870 and HD 3850. For the rest of the juicy details you will have to visit their site. Sadly, there are no pics of Diamond's cards, but there are some pics of the HD 3850 and HD 3870 floating around.

The pages have been removed from Diamond's site, but I saved a picture of them just in case this happened! Click on the thumbnail below. 

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Tom's Hardware HD 3870 and HD 3850 pics.

PowerColor's HD 3850 site is here...for now.

Our lovely parser located a new PowerColor page today and it is the page for the upcoming HD 3850. Score! Sadly there are no pics yet, but there is a full specifications and bundle list! Weeee! The last time I posted something like this (see the story below this one) the site was pulled after it received enough hits. How long do you guys think this one will stay up? I have screenshots just in case it gets pulled.

What is interesting about these specs is that the HD 3850 is listed with a 512 bit memory bus instead of the 256 bit listed by Diamond. The clock speeds match what Diamond had though.

The pages were removed either last night or this morning. Here is my back-up:


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Tales from the parser.

I found two new cards in the parser today that I would like to mention. First, PowerColor has gone and created the first 32 bit Radeon X1550 with a whopping 128MB of DDR2 ram clocked to 330MHz! Way to lower the bar there PowerColor! The X1550 is a crap card that many manufacturers change around to fit their needs, but this is the first 32 bit to be made (the reference card is 128 bit).

The second card is more funny than irratating. XFX released yet another (I think there are more) card with the letters "WANG" at the end of the model number. I introduce the XFX GeForce 7200 GS model PV-T72S-WANG. What is even better is that Newegg currently has the "manly" card in stock for $27.99 after a $10 mail in rebate. For you wang fans out there, I present you with links to all of Penny Arcade's comics involving wang.

All things wang.

AMD decides to "hook you up" for $20 less.

DigiTimes has reportinated that AMD has decided to cut the price of its upcoming HD 3850 and HD 3870 cards by one Andrew Jackson. The HD 3800 series will now be priced from $179-$239 instead of from $199-$259. I am guessing that the $179 price will be for the 256MB HD 3850 and the $239 will be the full on 512MB GDDR4 HD 3870. Where between $179 and $239 will the 512MB HD 3850 be priced? Perhaps $209?


A 20 dollar bill!

Sapphire questioned over X1950 Pro for X1900 XT downgrade.

I am in full support of Ladyhawk on this one. Her Sapphire X1900 XT failed on her and Sapphire attempted to convince her to let them replace it with a X1950 Pro. She was pretty sure that was a bad idea so she opened this thread asking for opinions. Most users correctly warned her to not accept the X1950 Pro because it does not perform as well as her old X1900 XT. In fact, the 2nd person person to reply linked to our comparison page for those two cards. (Thanks jmackay!)

She then took her case to Sapphire's forums where after making 4 posts in the thread she started, she was banned. In a show of [H]ard|Forum solidarity, snaggletooth opened up a thread to show support for Ladyhawk. This new thread has a poll and is connected to Digg right here. The goal here (which I support) is to Digg this up and hopefully get a satisfactory response from Sapphire.

What Sapphire tried to do is wrong. They attempted to satisfy a customer with an inferior product and they have thusfar done nothing to help their customer but make her wait for a X1900 XT that may never materialize. I encourage all of you to use your Digg powers to fight the "man".


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Happy Radeon HD 3800 day!

The new HD 3850 and HD 3870 are finally here! There seems to be plenty of information available but it looks like this not one of those newfangled "hard launches". I have yet to find a website where they currently have one of these new cards in stock. (Woops! I take that back. Newegg has 3 different HD 3850s and 3 different HD 3870s.) These cards are indeed DirectX 10.1 compliant even though our pages say only DirectX 10. (Mike we need to add a 10.1 option.) [H]ard|OCP has some delightful AMD slides that are no longer under embargo. 

I encourage you to consider the price point of these cards when looking at reviews. Comparing these cards to a 8800 GTS ot 8800 GTX is fine, but it is very important to keep in mind that those cards cost much more than both the HD 3870 and HD 3850. Check out these paragraphs from [H]ard|OCP's review :

"The Radeon HD 3850 is priced at $179, this compares directly with a factory overclocked GeForce 8600 GTS. We are going to use an EVGA GeForce 8600 GTS Superclock (720 MHz/2.1 GHz) which on Newegg was $179 at the time of writing this. This is a highly overclocked video card and will represent the 8600 GTS GPU in the best light possible. 

For the Radeon HD 3870 things are slightly more complicated. The MSRP on the Radeon HD 3870 is $219, and we are assured at launch it will be at this price with some retailers. Obviously pricing will vary a bit, but we should not see a situation like with the 8800 GT currently selling way above suggested retail pricing. The GeForce 8800 GT was positioned to be between $199-$249, but so far we have not seen it that low (except for a very few cards that sold out quickly). Stock clock 8800 GT cards are even selling for $299 at some retailers. The lowest price at Newegg at the time of writing this for an 8800 GT was $269, and those were out of stock. In fact every 8800 GT at Newegg was out of stock at the time of writing this and the average price was $293. As it stands right now, going by street price, the Radeon HD 3870 is much less expensive, and not price comparable with an 8800 GT."

You may notice that we have no reviews linked in our card pages. That is all Mike's fault. He upgraded some software or something recently and I just noticed that our review adder is broken. He has some idea in his crazy head about making this site even awesomer which means that periodically, I feel like a Beta tester. So for now, I will link some reviews here:

[H]ard|OCP reference HD 3850 and HD 3870 review
PC Perspective refernce HD 3850 and HD 3870 review
Elite Bastards PowerColor HD 3850 Extreme review
Extreme Tech reference HD 3850 review
Legit Reviews CrossFire HD 3850 review
TweakTown Asus HD 3870 review
Guru3D reference HD 3850 and HD 3870 review
The Tech Report reference HD 3850 and HD 3870 review
Firing Squad reference HD 3850 and HD 3870 review
HotHardware reference CrossFire HD 3850 and CrossFire HD 3870 review
Overclockers Club Sapphire HD 3870 review
Hardware Canucks CrossFire HIS HD 3870 review

GPUReview's HD 3850 & HD 3870 overclocking round up!

After literally minutes of searching and several more minutes of making the table, I bring you the following:


HD 3850 and HD 3870 overclocks


Let me clearly explain the 4 percentage columns. Column F is the percent above the value listed in column B, which is the core clock the card has out of the box. Column G is the same deal as Column F, only this time it is the memory speed. Column H and I are the percentages above the reference clocks for the card... which are 669/829 for the HD 3850 and 777/1,126 for the HD 3870.

New 512MB 8800 GTS Pictures

TechConnect Magazine has some pictures posted of the upcoming 512MB G92-based GeForce 8800 GTS 512. Why in the world they aen't naming the card 8900 GTS is beyond me. This is going to add even more confusion to an already confusing marketplace where the cheaper 8800 GT is faster than the GTS. Now we're going to have a GTS that looks to be faster than the Ultra!

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Radeon 3870 X2 Pictures!

Fudzilla got its hands on some more pics of the upcoming dual-chip Radeon 3870 X2. This thing looks like a real monster! The actual PCB is so long I don't think it would fit in my Antec P180 unless I took out the hard drive cage. I suppose this way they get to keep the dual slot cooling solution and thus keep the clocks high. Should be interesting to see what happens with all this dual-chip insanity in the next few months!

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Evga bundles Crysis with its new cards!

We here at GPUReview love Crysis. Mike has finished it and I am about half way through it. Well now Evga has decided to bundle the game with 2 of its 112 Shader 8800 GTSs and its Superclocked 8800 GT. All three of these cards (with Crysis) are available at Newegg and the two 8800 GTSs are available through Evga's site. Here is Evga's information page on this deal. Below you will find the links to Newegg which are $10 cheaper than Evga's prices.

Evga e-GeForce 8800 GTS KO (Crysis Shader 1,242) $339.99
Evga e-GeForce 8800 GTS SSC (Crysis Shader 1,350) $349.99
Evga e-GeForce 8800 GT Superclocked (Crysis Shader 1,625 Shader) $299.99

UPDATE 11-23-2007:

Evga has added two 8800 GTX bundles and a 320MB 8800 GTS bundle as well. 

Evga e-GeForce 8800 GTX (Crysis) $529.99
Evga e-GeForce 8800 GTX Superclocked (Crysis 1,450 Shader) $579.99
Evga e-GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB Superclocked (Crysis) $274.99  

More new (French!) G92 512MB 8800 GTS pics.

Luckily for you dear readers, I took 4 years of French in high school so I can translate this short post for you right now!

La nouvelle 8800GTS a une forme bizarre = The new 8800 GTS in a bizarre form.

On boit trop chez Nvidia? = They drink to much at Nvidia?

Alors que notre confrère Matbe annonce que la nouvelle 8800GTS aurait du retard, annoncée premièrement pour le 3 décembre elle sortirait le 11 du même mois.  = Our associate site Matbe announced that the new 8800 GTS would be late, announced at first for the 3rd of December will be coming out on the 11th of the same month.

Je vous ai trouvé une nouvelle photo de la 8800GTS 512 Mo avec un G92 ( GPU présent sur les 8800GT) = I have found a new photo for you of the 8800 GTS 512MB with a G92 (core) (the GPU present on the 8800 GTs).

Sur la première photo rien de spécial à signaler mais sur la seconde, on voit clairement que le ventilateur la 8800GTS est incliné. Nouvelle technique ? Ou serait-ce un abus d'alcool chez les ingénieurs de Nvidia? = In the first photo there is nothing special but in the second one can see clearly that the cooler on the 8800 GTS is inclined. A new technique? Or could it be the (result) of alcohol abuse on the part of Nvidia's engineers?

Je vous laisse deviner. = I leave it for you to decide.


French new 8800 GTS pics.

So French readers, how are me 1337 translation skillz holding up? 

G92-based 8800 GTS 512 Full Review At TweakTown!

A little birdy sent the guys over at TweakTown a shiny new 8800 GTS 512, a full two weeks before the card is to be officially announced. So naturally they did what any good enthusiast site would do, they benchmarked the hell out of it and posted a 17 page review! Go get a look before nVidia makes them take it down!

GeForce 8800 GTS 512 Review  

The magic at Asus continues to flow...

Will 3 be the "charm" for Asus' magical graphics cards? I really hope so because I don't know how much more magic I can take without developing a respiratory condition from breathing too much fairy dust. The latest triumph of Asus' sorcery is a HD 2400 Pro with 256MB of DDR2 HyperMemory which is clocked to 333MHz instead of the way too normal 400MHz. I only hope that your owl will be able to deliver it to you at Hogwarts without dropping it in the snow or in the Whomping Willow.


HD 2400 Pro that is magical.
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